Tuesday, December 28, 2010

Ungrateful.

 Apparently, I was not grateful enough to Sady Doyle.  There I was, once some little podunk blog (aside: I am still a little podunk blog. I rather like this, but no matter), and she came down from on high to recognize me, and give me readers, and make me something.  Let's be real: I was nothing without Sady Doyle's grace.  I should know my place. 

But yet, I have been so ungrateful: I have disagreed with Sady Doyle on something.  And made a joke about a silly argument she made (look: it was a silly argument).   And called the logical reasoning behind said silly argument "UTTER SHIT."   

Also, I was upset because I cannot have or hear any discussion about criminal justice without taking race and poverty into account.  And I am extremely wary of the state criminal justice machine, because: we know which bodies it mostly polices.  We know that it is an oppressive system.   Relying on, or championing, the criminal justice system, is not going to be the answer to oppression.  The problem, as far as I saw it, was rape culture, and I was worried that people were looking to a system that is not made for victims, and is looked at by many people in this society with distrust, as the answer to that rape culture.  And the criminal justice system: it just isn't the answer.

So when people, not any one person, not any single instance, but many people, were talking about the criminal justice system in a way that was not nuanced, that was not seeing how merely prosecuting rape for political reasons would make us ALL lose, that was advocating against the very important need to keep the state from running over the accused, that was conflating challenging charges with challenging victims, well . . . like I said, I cannot understand any conversation about criminal justice without thinking about race and poverty.  It made me nervous.  So I wrote a post with Silvana. 

I should point out that Sady and Silvana and I were all on the same side.  I had already written a post about rape culture and how the media was perpetuating it and how fucked up that was.  I just didn't like where the conversations by some people, specifically around the criminal justice system, were going.   That was my real and primary and continuing concern. 

But I have been kindly reminded by Sady that I am terribly ungracious.  I should not disagree.  What I am doing, apparently, "isn't feminism."  Also, I probably don't like that a lot of money went to RAINN for rape victims.  I am a terrible person.  Clearly.  Because who would deny rape survivors money?  Me, obviously.  Who didn't even have the good sense to shut up when I saw something I thought was wrong.

In truth, I must tell you a fairy tale.  It is in fact a true fairy tale!  Settle in, now.  So, once upon a time, there was a Gayle who was having a really hard time surviving her rape.  She was isolating herself and wasn't telling anyone anything about it.  Her therapist was getting increasingly worried about her isolation and suggested at the very least, she just start writing about it.  At least get it out.  At least don't keep it in.

So she did!  She started a blog.  And she told NO ONE ABOUT IT.  Which was the plan!  She liked the idea of getting it out into the universe, there, real, tangible, for anyone to find, but no one SHE knew, no one it would matter to, what she was writing, no audience she had to keep in mind and thus censor herself for.  No expectations.  She was just releasing all these demons into the ether.

Well, see, that's not true: she told one person her secret.  A single person.  Who had a blog.  And who recently had been writing about very personal things.  And Gayle thought in reading this blog with these personal things, well, this author, she can do this, she can write about these hard things, and it doesn't destroy her.  So maybe I can do this too.  Gayle wrote this person to thank her, in a personal email, with her real name, just to say thanks for helping her realize that putting whatever is plaguing you into words can be ok.

And then this person paraphrased and quoted from Gayle's personal email, and put a link to Gayle's blog on HER blog, which was widely read, and then Gayle had a panic attack.  Because: her blog wasn't supposed to have readers.  And her email wasn't supposed to have been public.  And her very personal shit was now VERY, VERY visible.  She felt overexposed and out of control, because she was not asked, or consulted, or told this was coming.

But, it had already happened, and she thought, well, this person with the widely read blog, she must have meant well.  I mean, right?  Gayle thought maybe she was trying to be kind with her offerings of readers, and so Gayle was gracious, and said thank you, and figured the damage was already done, and tried to take it as best as possible.

It would be the end of the fairy tale, but some days, as Gayle, I can tell you: I wish I didn't have readers.  Sometimes, I wish I didn't have followers, and I contemplate turning the comments off all the time, or going and starting some secret Tumblr something so I can ACTUALLY be more properly anonymous or sparsely read.  So, it's a little hard for me to be chided for not being grateful enough, when I was never actually grateful in the first place.  I felt, instead, at the time, used.

But no: I should be appreciative!  I now owe allegiance!  For the "demonstrated substantial personal generosity and kindness" of deigning to link to my sad, podunk blog once, in a post that was actually about how what Sady Doyle does MATTERS, and I was merely evidence of that.  But not clearing it with me beforehand.  Or warning me.  Why would I be having any control issues about anything at that moment of dealing with a rape?  Because I was nothing without Sady Doyle.

Maybe Sady is feeling hurt by our post.  But I cannot imagine so hurt that Silvana and I, with our concerns about how the criminal justice system was being invoked, were the "lowest blow" in this entire #mooreandme thing - we are not lower than the rape defenders, the rape apologists, the assholes who threatened death and bodily harm.  I'm sorry, but no.  And Sady will have to excuse me if I am still not feeling the shine of her beneficence.  I am just a lady, with a blog, trying to continue to get shit off my chest so it doesn't eat me up.  And if obeisance is what Sady needs, and everything else is "isn't feminism," then I'll take Sady's idea of what "isn't feminism" from here on out.

Update: Silvana responds here.

11 comments:

  1. And if you want to know, yes, this entire thing DOES indeed remind me of The Tempest.

    PROSPERO

    Abhorred slave,
    Which any print of goodness wilt not take,
    Being capable of all ill! I pitied thee,
    Took pains to make thee speak, taught thee
    each hour
    One thing or other: when thou didst not, savage,
    Know thine own meaning, but wouldst gabble like
    A thing most brutish, I endow'd thy purposes
    With words that made them known. But thy vile
    race,
    Though thou didst learn, had that in't which
    good natures
    Could not abide to be with; therefore wast thou
    Deservedly confined into this rock,
    Who hadst deserved more than a prison.

    CALIBAN

    You taught me language; and my profit on't
    Is, I know how to curse. The red plague rid you
    For learning me your language!

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  2. Since I've already previously agreed with the point that getting at Assange via shady legal methods won't help Women in general or Rape Victims in particular... (even if he IS guilty,) I want to comment on something else instead.

    Had someone publicly posted my personal and private e-mail and then linked to my blog without first consulting me, I would have immediately written them and asked them to take it down, and stated that I had intended that personal communication to be private, and not public.

    It doesn't matter if I want to make a point that can't be made without exposing someone else. If that individual hasn't consented to exposure, and hasn't done anything WRONG that deserves exposure, I'll keep it to myself and find another way to make my point.

    When I confronted stalker troll, I said nothing of what I knew or who I knew it from. I let him think, for that moment, that I had simply figured things out for myself and seen through his lies and called him on it.

    There were certainly things I wanted to say that I could not say without revealing what I knew. I didn't say them. I didn't even consider doing otherwise.

    No momentary exultation on my part was worth making someone else feel unsafe, or possibly betraying their trust.

    Yes, it's true that in the battle against predators, if everything remains hidden, we can't win against them. However, the ends do not justify the means. If we are winning battles by exposing those who don't want to be exposed, or threatening the safety... physical or mental, of the very people we're fighting to protect, then I'd say we are using the wrong weapons in our battles, and have perhaps lost sight of what we're fighting for.

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  3. Um, ack. This is pretty upsetting and disappointing just to watch. I also thought that the lowest blows were the trolls issuing threats? Or the rape apologist brigade? And certainly not people who think that rape is awful and we should not trivialize it when we talk about it?

    Sorry that you and Silvana are getting so much blowback over this. It doesn't even make any sense.

    Anyway your post prompted a change of heart and some fretting on my part as detailed earlier, so thumbs up, still. Like, I want to be able to participate in conversations about anti-rape activism or rape culture without accidentally stepping on someone else, like for example people who are abused by the criminal justice system? "Fuck yeah let's get behind this shit" is a creepy thing to say about state power. I want to say it when the situation involves pursuing rape allegations, but. "That sounds like a personal problem," as my partner often remarks.

    What a friggin' minefield.

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  4. So, I found my original email to Sady, which she claims included a request for her to promote me (of course, she claims everything I've done is self-promotion, and also that I am a back-stabber). You can all decide that (and also, if you are confused about what the fuck is going on, I am too). My original email is below:

    So, here I am, 30 years old, a staunch feminist, in law school, hard as nails, I've totally carved this life out for myself, I am going to save the world, and . . . . I've been totally falling apart for the past couple months. I was raped, and I was a really good pretender. It never happened. Until it caught up with me. And then it nearly tore me apart.

    And, I want to write and say thank you. I've been reading you for ages, and your brilliance, humor, your way with words - they've all helped me get through my day (your Avatar post made me laugh out loud). So many things you've written have mattered, giving words to the way I see and experience the world. And I am incredibly grateful for that.

    But what I am most thankful for was the incredible amount of honesty and personal sharing that you've done recently on Tiger Beatdown. A couple of weeks ago, my therapist expressed his "deep worry" that I wasn't telling anyone anything about what I was going through, or what was going through my head, and that it was dangerous. Like, actually dangerous. Annnnnd . . . I took a deep breath, and inspired by your posts recently, and the fact that Google Buzz found a long defunct blog that I had started last year and never written in, I thought, well, maybe I can put it out there, and just get all of it out of my head.

    And so that's what I'm doing! And you know, it is kind of glorious. Seeing you be able to share personal things, without it being dangerous, or burdensome (all those fears we have about sharing and being vulnerable) . . . I was reading your blog, and I was grateful that you had shared something so personal. And I figured, maybe I could do that, too. And it would be ok.

    And it is. I've written, um, only maybe 2 real posts, and one is about actually writing posts, but it feels nice.

    So thanks for your words, your wisdom, and a model of what one can do with a voice, and a keyboard, and the interwebs. And, I am sorry about your recent break-up. But, you putting your break-up out there? Is part of why I felt like maybe it'd be ok if I started telling things, too.

    Take care,
    Gayle

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  5. For what it's worth, I really appreciate reading what you write. If it feels burdensome or obligatory, I hope you don't sacrifice yourself for our sakes. I've gained a great deal from reading you, for the months you've been on my RSS, and at the very least I wanted you to know it in case you've doubted it.

    (Saying anything more feels presumptuous. So I'll leave it at "thank you.")

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  6. Juliet, thank you. Really, really, thank you. I promise I won't do martyrdom - it makes me a poor advocate for the work I try to do in my real life job, and a poor writer here.

    I'll be taking a break from the internet I think for a few days in order to locate my sanity, but I'll be back (also, my classes START ON MONDAY. Yes, already. Gah). But there are very good, very busy things to come. And I am excited to share.

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  7. "I am just a lady, with a blog, trying to continue to get shit off my chest so it doesn't eat me up."

    The line between public and private can be so... mooshy... sometimes. For some of us, our blogs are less of a journalistic or exhibitionist exercise, but rather a mostly privately shared journal. From my perspective, I can completely understand and respect your feeling of violation at being "outed" to the world, even if it happened with the most benevolent of intent.

    I do hope you don't run away to some uncharted area of the interwebs, as I'd miss reading your words. In particular, reading your unraveling of your feelings about your rape have been very healing for me. One day, maybe I'll be bold enough to share the stories of my own rapes, in the hope that it will help someone else feel less marginalized and misunderstood.

    (PS... I _so_ want to see new film of The Tempest. Helen Mirren as Prospera?? Yay!)

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  8. As a big (lurker) fan of Tiger Beatdown and Sady in general, I was really stunned at how public she made her hurt feelings about what seemed to me to be a private misunderstanding. I read the original "We have points" post and felt too many people assumed it was entirely anti-Sady, when to me it seemed you disagreed on one narrow point while agreeing overall on the major issue (i.e. one point about Sady does not mean they were all about her). I will admit I'm glad she linked to you because I enjoy your writing. It was also awesome to see Silvana around here (loved Bitch Ph.D., R.I.P.). I hope this all comes to some sort of acceptable closure (in private, please, Sady) as I am a big fan of all three of you and look forward to future writings from you that challenge me to think more than I would like to at times.

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  9. Additionally, the tone-policing from people who are typically allies is surprising given how often that tactic is used by non-allies in order to silence or alter the focus of the main discussion. A crass tone does not equal an attack in my opinion, especially not when that tone is directed at someone who is often crass herself (this is a large part of what drew me to TBD in the first place, as I can be very crass much of the time).

    I know that I could not handle filleting myself open online, and thus, I do feel very bad for Sady (and you and Silvana) even if I don't completely understand the sources of all the pain.

    May the hurt be gone in 2011 for all of you fabulous ladies!

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  10. I'm appalled that Sady not only linked to your blog with the story of your rape from her much larger blog without asking you, but that she thought it was totally ok to do so because you were a useful example of People She Has Inspired. And that she was so quick to go to personal attacks after your post. It does seem like a pattern. I noticed that when Moe Tkacik offended Sady, she immediately brought up Moe's status as a rape victim and paraded it around as part of her argument. She seems to be obsessed with those who sin against her and trolls the internet looking for people to respond to, and respond to, and respond to. There are some real boundary and anger issues going on.

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  11. I have only just stumbled across this discussion, and BitchPHD and your blog.

    So far, so transfixed.

    I love to know there are some critical voices out there. I also blog and sometimes about the legal issues around rape/rape discourse/'rape culture'.


    My latest post is on the Bill being proposed in Georgia about rape 'victims'/'accusers':

    http://quietgirlriot.wordpress.com/2011/02/04/rapevictim/

    Look forward to reading more of your work...

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