1. Challenging extradition does not make someone guilty. Fighting charges does not make someone guilty. It implies absolutely nothing. Julian Assange fighting his extradition TELLS US NOTHING ABOUT HIS GUILT OR INNOCENCE. This is how the criminal justice system works. You fight extralegal and illegal actions by states. You hold states to the rule of law.
2. Stop conflating challenging state prosecutorial actions and the state criminal justice machine with challenging rape survivors stories. These are not even close to the same. To challenge charges or state legal action is not undermining victims' assertions. This thinking would undermine EVERYONE'S DEFENSE. It would mean no person could raise a defense without being accused of questioning the victim. As the people who often end up at the defense table are disproportionately people of color and the poor in this country, having been disproportionately targeted by the criminal justice system, this is REALLY PROBLEMATIC.
3. Our chat conversation said it best:
silvana: i dont even know what to make of sady's last post
"It is very, very low. Because Michael Moore’s actions indicate that rape survivors just don’t mean as much to Michael Moore as Julian Assange getting bail. They just don’t. He has assigned a demonstrable, monetary value to these two causes, and as far as we know, Assange is worth $20,000 and providing necessary aid to sexual assault survivors is worth $0."
i find this to be shit
me: i find this to be UTTER SHIT
there are no zero sum games like that in life
silvana: moore doesn't have any obligation to give any money to anyone
silvana: As far as the world knows, going out for french food is worth $100 to silvana, and helping rape survivors is worth $0
i am so mad
me: i just went out for dinner and paid for pizza. I VALUE PIZZA MORE THAN RAPE PREVENTION.
i love our examples
written at the same time
me: OUR FOOD: MORE IMPORTANT THAN RAPE SURVIVORS
silvana: and starving children
and people who have been the victims of landmines
me: and rape epidemics in the congo!
silvana: and women held as sexual slaves in thailand
me: sady doyle gave $50 for rape survivors. why does sady doyle hate starving african babies?
4. It is possible both that Julian Assange did what he is alleged to have done, and also that the prosecution and potential extradition is politically motivated. If other alleged rapists are not being threatened with extradition to Sweden based on rape charges, and Assange is, that makes this a political prosecution because of his status as a political figure. That is problematic. It is relevant how other people are treated, because it's an issue of justice. We can protest, and question, the politically motivated treatment of Assange as a target for extradition without suggesting that the accusers are liars. Nuance, people. Come on.